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Adobe declares that only ARMv7 Android devices getting Flash 10.1: Pre good, Pixi not so much?

March 2nd 2010 | Posted by Derek Kessler

Flash 10.1Adobe’s been teasing us with Flash 10.1 on webOS for what seems like ages now. In fact, the first news about webOS and Flash came from Palm and Adobe more than a year ago. It’s been five months since we first saw Flash demoed on a Palm Pre and in the intervening months we’ve seen it shown off on all manner of Android devices as well. What we haven’t seen is Flash 10.1 on more lowly hardware, such as the Palm Pixi or HTC Hero. Now we might know why.

An Adobe employee, after revealing that they were not working on getting Flash 10.1 to work on Windows Mobile 6.5 (little surprise) recently declared that Adobe was only working to get Flash for Android working on ARMv7 processors. Processors that fall into that category include the Qualcomm Snapdragon powering devices like the Google Nexus One (and HTC Desire) and the TI OMAP3430 inside the Palm Pre, Pre Plus, and Motorola Droid/Milestone.

What doesn’t have an ARMv7 could be a problem for some webOS users: the Palm Pixi and Pixi Plus run off the Qualcomm MSM7627 processor, which is an ARMv6 chip. The MSM7627 is a beastly little chip, with two processing cores (600 MHz for processing, 400 MHz for the modem) and a 300 MHz graphics-core with Open GL 2.0 support – all packed into a tiny thumbnail-sized package. Has Adobe come out and said that they’re not working on Flash for the Pixi? Nope, but they haven’t said that they are. Even our man Palm CEO Jon Rubinstein, when showing off Flash 10.1 at CES 2010, was careful to say that Flash 10.1 would be coming to “all Pre phones.” Note the lack of Pixi in there.

[via: Engadget [via: Gizmodo]]

Thanks to Shadow-360 in the forums for the heads up!

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Adobe AIR Headed to Smartphones, webOS Included

February 15th 2010 | Posted by Jason Robitaille

We already knew that Flash is coming to webOS, but today, during an Adobe conference at Moble World Congress, it was announced that Adobe is bring their Adobe Integrated Runtime (AIR) to smartphones, including webOS.

Adobe’s AIR lets developers create applications based on web programming languages like HTML and javascript, and naturally with support for Adobe Flash and Adobe Flex.

This move by Adobe is part of their efforts to entice developers over, and really it’s quite smart. Developers will only need to make a single AIR application and that will be deployable on all major smartphone platforms.

Keen readers might remember how back in September we reported on how Flash 10.1 would include support multi-touch and accelerometers. Well, evidently Adobe’s continuing down that route and Gizmodo is reporting multi-touch support is present in the Android port at the very least.

From the sounds of it, AIR will be debuting on the Android and will launch on other platforms, including webOS thereafter.  This is an interesting announcement to say the least. It’ll definitely be fascinating to see how events unravel from here.

[via: Gizmodo]

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Adobe to show off Flash 10.1 on webOS at MWC

February 13th 2010 | Posted by Derek Kessler

Flash on webOSMobile World Congress will be getting underway tomorrow in Barcelona and Adobe’s going to be on hand to show off the latest version of Flash 10.1. Not only will the new Flash be shown running on Android and webOS devices, but if we’re reading Adobe’s words correctly, attendees to MWC will actually be able to try it out for themselves. Our own Dieter Bohn is headed to Barcelona to partake in the craziness that is the Mobile World Congress, hopefully he’ll be able to get a hands-on with this newness. If not, we’ll should be able to all get our hands on webOS Flash soon enough anyway.

Thanks to akitayo in our forums for the tip!

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What to expect with webOS 1.4

January 29th 2010 | Posted by Derek Kessler

Flash pageThere’s been some confusion as of late about how Flash will be coming to webOS and to which devices. It all pretty much stems from Jon Rubinstein’s announcement at CES about the very same thing, where he said that Flash would be available to “all Pre phones.” Note the lack of “Pixi” in that statement. Does this mean that Flash won’t be coming to the Pixi at all?

Flash 10.1 will not come built into webOS 1.4. The new version of webOS will come with support for the Flash plug-in, which will be available for free from the App Catalog. Additionally, it’s going to be Adobe’s call as to when the Flash plug-in makes its way to the App Catalog.

Of course, we all are looking forward to full video recording and editing on the Pre and Pixi. Palm has also promised battery and speed enhancements, but those sorts of things tend to incremental, so don’t expect the world there.

On top of the above, we also have this posting in Sprint’s forums via QuarlesLT in our own forums detailing just a little bit more about webOS 1.4:

Get even more out of your Palm Pre and Pixi, Palm webOS 1.4 update is on the horizon.
I wanted to let everyone know that we’re planning to have an update to your Palm Pre and Palm Pixi later this quarter. We’ll be updating to Palm webOS 1.4. A few of the key updates include:

  • Video Capture functionality with editing capability
  • Adobe Flash Player 10 (Palm Pre only)
  • Full Phonebook transfer capabilities
  • Calendar Enhancements
  • Messaging Enhancements

These are just a few of the high-lights with much more detail to come. I’m sure there will be a lot of questions around timing and details of the update and I won’t be able to share any more than what is listed above but we wanted to let our Community know it was coming.

So 1.4 is looking like the .5 update over 1.3.5.1 that is really is: some nice enhancements here and there, but it we don’t expect revolutionary changes. 

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Adobe says Flash for webOS coming in first half of 2010

November 11th 2009 | Posted by Derek Kessler

Adobe Flash on webOS

While we’re almost entirely certain that Flash will not be included in webOS 1.3.1 (despite the groundwork currently being laid), there does seem to be a timetable out there. Adobe delivered Flash 10.1 for mobile to manufacturers last month, and now they want you to know that it should land on webOS devices in the first half of next year. Note: this isn’t a delay, we’ve always known that delivering to manufacturers and delivering to end users are two different beasts entirely.

Users have reported getting the above message when they click on links to Flash videos or got to Adobe’s Flash website. Amusingly, iPhone users are also greeted with a message when they visit the Flash page, though it’s not quite as encouraging.

Thanks to klubhead for the tip!

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The Other Side of Flash

October 21st 2009 | Posted by Jason Robitaille

There’s been a lot of talk about flash lately. Between the Flash 10.1 announcement with Adobe’s demonstration on the Pre and the Adobe MAX presentation, it seems like everyone is gaga over Flash on the webOS.  However, at some point we need to step back and notice Flash has some notable downsides that need to be addressed and considered.

First and foremost, Flash is a proprietary format developed by Adobe. It’s nowhere near as open a standard as html/css/js. Everything is developed in Adobe-created tools and the format is defined by what Adobe sets it at. That a lot of power and control in the hands of a single company, especially if Flash for the webOS were to gain momentum. And if iTunes has taught us anything, one company have singular control over a format can be detrimental. Kinda funny that the Flash Mobile development group was called the "Open Screen Project," eh?

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Flash demoed live on Pre at Adobe MAX developer conference

October 6th 2009 | Posted by Derek Kessler

Adobe Max Flash 10.1 Presentation

Yesterday was all sorts of crazy as far as Palm news is concerned, so we’re still doing some catch-up. Example: Flash 10.1 was shown off live and in person on a Palm Pre at Adobe MAX, Adobe’s worldwide developer conference. The demo appears to have covered the same activities as that video that Adobe posted early yesterday, but the presentation itself included slides with a bit more detail on Flash 10.1, and our friend Buck was there with a camera snapping away.

According to the slides, Flash Player 10.1’s smartphone version comes with the multitouch and accelerometer support we’ve known about for some time, supports HTTP video streaming, has built-in content protection mechanisms, can work with peer-assisted networking, and has been optimized for memory and power consumption while taking advantage of hardware [GPU] acceleration. Of course, webOS needs to be ramped up to take advantage of that GPU first, but we’re talking a few months down the road still.

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Adobe Flash 10.1 Announced and Demo’d on the Pre

October 5th 2009 | Posted by Jason Robitaille

[ youtube link ]

We’ve known since February that webOS and Palm Pre would be getting Adobe Flash by the end of 2009. Well, it’s October and although we’ve heard things we still on track, the lack of news certainly did seem a bit troubling… until today.

Today Adobe made their big Flash Player 10.1 announcement, mostly confirming what we already knew:

Adobe Systems Incorporated today unveiled Adobe Flash Player 10.1 software for smartphones, smartbooks, netbooks, PCs and other Internet-connected devices, allowing content created using the Adobe Flash Platform to reach users wherever they are. A public developer beta of the browser-based runtime is expected to be available for Windows® Mobile, Palm® webOS and desktop operating systems including Windows, Macintosh and Linux later this year.

Certainly encouraging talk there; it’s nice to see webOS mentioned specifically. What’s even more interesting is the press release then continues going on, mentioning how Flash 10.1 is able to utilize the GPU for better performance.  Whether that means this means the webOS version will use the GPU is not mentioned, but that’d certainly be a good way to make flash less CPU-intensive.

In addition, Adobe has posted a video demonstration of Flash 10.1 on the Pre.   It’s definitely worth a watch.  Seems to support webOS pretty well.  We previously heard device orientation and multi-touch is supported, but now we know Flash is integrated to save its state before switching to card view, saving processing power (and thus battery power) and giving an overall better user experience.

Although this demonstration only showed pretty basic examples of flash usage, it’s still pretty exciting and could have far reaching future implications. If flash were done successfully, with GPU support, it certainly wouldn’t be too difficult to make flash-based webOS apps.

Also, if you’re a developer and want to be notified by email when the public beta of Flash 10.1 is ready for the webOS, Adobe has set up a form here.

So who wants to start the release date guessing?

Thanks to everyone that sent this in!

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One More Thing with the Pre?

May 13th 2009 | Posted by Derek Kessler

Palm Pre - don't touch

There are two things that Pre-fanatics like myself have been wondering since the reveal way back in January. The first is the release date, and frankly, it’s hard to speculate about that. But the second, it’s what is the deal with all the secrecy? If you’ve been following Palm’s Twitter feed, you’ve likely seen the multiple instances of “we’ll have more details closer to launch” line in response to questions about features that Palm has not yet discussed. We’ve even heard that line from Palm employees doing demos for the press, leaving all of us hanging and wondering what’s going on here.

We are pretty sure we know as much as it’s possible to know about the Pre without holding it.  Yet we’ve also heard rumblings that there’s "one more thing" – some big feature hidden away in there that we haven’t heard about yet.  Crazy?  Probably, but if there is some other new feature, we wonder what it could be.

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Office compatibility

We’ve caught glimpses of the Document Viewer application on the Pre, but we don’t know whether that means it’s a viewer (Palm has told us in person that document viewing is a go at launch) or an editor. Throw into the mix the fact that DataViz, the creator of the fantastic and popular Documents To Go document editor and synchronization suite for Palm OS, Blackberry OS, Symbian OS, and even Windows Mobile, was shown as a launch partner at the CES unveiling, and maybe, just maybe, Documents to Go will be on the Pre at launch.

This is one of those things about which Palm has said, “We’ll talk about that later.” While it’d be easy to imagine how document editing would work on webOS (it works surprisingly well on Palm OS), the hard part is synchronization with a phone that’s not designed for syncing with the computer where your documents are right now. Which brings me to the next point…

Local synchronization

If there’s any one thing that people have been clamoring for more than a release date, it’s local synchronization capability. Many either don’t want the cloud, or want the option to sync their phones to the computer and keep their data to themselves, which is an understandable desire. But Palm has stated that there is no desktop sync client like the dated-but-functional Palm Desktop, the only thing that happens when you plug the Pre into your computer is that it turns itself into a USB drive so you can drag and drop files between the phone and your computer.

But what about your address book and calendar and memos and everything else you sync right now with Palm OS. Sure, Palm is going to have their over-the-air Palm Backup service that will secure all these things on their servers should your Pre kick the digital bucket, but that doesn’t help you get them onto your computer. Just like the computer was supposed to remove paper from the office (that worked out well), the Pre isn’t going to sever the user’s desire to manage their contacts and calendar through something other than their browser.

We know for sure that Palm will have a web-based Data Transfer Assistant for moving your PIM data over to the Pre the first time, over the air.  We also know that Chapura is working on a sync client for the Pre, but currently it seems as if that will work by syncing your stuff to Google and then down to the Pre.  Finally, we do know that the Pre works as a USB drive (and can’t take calls when it does that) — but a real, tethered sync option for files and data is something that is useful despite how antiquated it feels to some.

Video capture

Treos have had it for years now, the iPhone will be getting it with the 3.0 update, and the Pre doesn’t have video recording capabilities? While Inside Sprint Now’s first Pre FAQ said that the Pre would not have video recording at launch, they did say that such a thing could be fixed easily with an over-the-air software update. Presumably the later and later release date rumors (and the current lack of a defined launch date) are because Palm is/was still refining the software and having enough built so that there more than two Pre phones on hand per store at launch. But what if that last-minute software refinement is the addition of new features, like video recording? Additionally, the leaked spec sheet for the lower-end Palm Eos included a mention of video capture, which implies that it is at least in the works.

Flash

Not the camera type, we know it’s got that, but the browser type. Palm has signed on as a partner with Adobe’s Open Screen Project, which is destined to bring real competent Flash support to mobile devices across a wide spectrum of operating systems (other partners include Intel, LG, Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson). Not only will this result in in-browser Flash for webOS, but it could also mean Flash for applications in webOS, which would make development of things like games much easier and faster given then extensive Flash experience that online game developers have cultivated over the years.

Current expectation based on Palm’s own statements is that Flash will get added by the end of the year.  That’s what we expect too, but maybe some early support could happen at launch?

The late game hardware surprise

Palm has claimed that their don’t touch policy with their Pre demos has been to avoid the appearance of favoritism with the press, even though it has been derided by tech luminaries such as Bonnie Cha of CNET. Clearly, Palm’s demo people don’t like to stray too far from the demo script, nor are they permitted to let people handle the Pre for more than a second, and they sure can’t touch things you say they can’t touch. Of all things, this is where we have to ask, what is Palm hiding?

Obviously, they want to make sure the press doesn’t trigger something that will crash the pre-production Pre phones they’ve had out for the demos, but could there be something in the hardware that they’re hiding? While there’s been no credence to the wishing, with the next iPhone likely to have increased storage, for a competitor that the Pre is going to be inevitably compared to, every comparison is going to note that the iPhone is available at the very least with twice the storage of the Pre (16 GB iPhone 3G vs. 8 GB Pre), or if the rumors are to be believed, four times the storage (32 GB vs. 8 BG).  Could Palm surprise us with increased storage?

Frankly, it’s not likely. But given Palm’s move towards ‘the cloud,’ it is feasible that webOS and Palm could come with online cloud storage to compensate for the Pre’s perceived-to-be-anemic on-device storage. Such cloud-based storage would not only reduce the cost of the physical Pre, but would allow for greater versatility (you could load music or movies off your computer through your faster hardline connection, and then access it remotely with the Pre). This, of course, makes the Pre dependent on Sprint’s network coverage. If you find yourself in a subterranean parking garage, you can kiss your cloud-stored music goodbye.

Lastly, there’s one late game hardware surprise that actually has some support: WiMAX. Palm has been rumored to be working on a 4G WiMAX device since May 2007, but we haven’t seen anything fron it, and Sprint’s roll-out of WiMAX with partner/quasi-subsidiary Clearwire (Sprint owns 51% of Clearwire) has been slow and tortured for years. While Sprint and Clearwire have managed to get their Clear service up and running in Atlanta and Portland, and Sprint’s Xhom (soon to be merged with Clear) is up in Baltimore, they’re still ahead of Verizon and AT&T’s plans to launch LTE as their 4G service.

So, what about the Pre? While multi-tasking and unobtrusive notifications are the really nice things about the Pre, they aren’t exactly buzzword features that will put it head and shoulders in the public’s eyes over the next-gen iPhone. What makes this interesting, is that Sprint’s ‘Now Network’ commercials have all had uncredited cameos of the Pre, immediately following the following line: “America’s most dependable 3G network, bringing you the first wireless 4G network. Sprint, the Now Network.” Of course, it’s likely that Sprint is just trying to promote their network as being more advanced than their more popular competitors, but it’s also possible that the Pre will indeed have WiMAX. Possible in the same way that unicorns are possible.

So there you have it — if there’s a late-game surprise with the Palm Pre, we don’t rightly know what it is and don’t even really know if we’re expecting one.  Do you think Palm has one more thing up their sleeve?

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WebOS Gaming: Flash, Palm’s Secret Weapon

March 20th 2009 | Posted by Jason Robitaille

The day Adobe Flash was announced to be coming to the Palm Pre, there was a collective rejoicing from the community.  Not since the old Sony Clie days had we seen flash running on Palm device.  Interestingly, it was day before the official Adobe announcement that we, here at PreCentral, were discussing flash as a potential means of gaming on the WebOS.  Now, after we’ve has some time to let "flash on the Pre" sink in, it only seems fitting to come back to the issue.

Back on February 15th, I posed that Adobe Flash on the Palm webOS could be a saving grace for game development on the Pre.  It certainly seems like Palm realized this too. And while I do believe we may someday see native C applications for the Pre, I don’t see it happening until next year at earliest. Flash can help fill that gap.

Palm has been stressing how much of an online, connected device the Pre is.  In that sense, having flash support was inevitable.  If Palm is able to integrate flash support as deeply into the OS as they’ve done with HTML5, CSS, and javascript, then I have high hopes.  Adobe Flash provides an optimal platform to create some pretty nice games.  Full integration of flash support, not only in the browser but the OS as a whole, would be huge, allowing for flash applications to be shown directly in the launcher, and possibly allowing third party developers to integrate flash elements into their own HTML-based applications.  Plus, as it stands, there are potentially many thousands of existing flash games that could then run on the WebOS. Quite a boost to the Pre’s software catalog.

The only thing left in question is when we will see this flash player released.  At first, I was worried, as lately it seems Adobe Flash on the iPhone is on a TBA-schedule. For flash on the iPhone, Apple appears to be putting the onus on Adobe to deliver.  This doesn’t seem to be the case with Palm.  During a PCMagazine article, it was noted:

"Palm is doing the work themselves with help from us, to make it happen as quickly as possible," Muraka said.

That speaks volumes of Palm’s strategy with flash support. I wouldn’t be surprise if Flash Mobile is released for the WebOS right on time, in Q4 2009, if not slightly earlier.  One thing that seems to support this theory is a brief twitter communication between myself and Palm regarding flash support that seems to imply Palm has at least known there’d be flash support on the Pre since way back at CES.  Yet another secret Palm has been able to keep quite well.  I wonder what else Palm has up its sleeve.

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